Gordon Watts, a
servant of Christ, in the Protestant faith sector: To all my Catholic brothers
and sisters in the Lord, GREETINGS: I'd appreciate your feedback on this
theological analysis: A deeper analysis of the "praying to the saints"
issue:
First, the Protestant view is best summed up in this
Bible verse:
1 Timothy 2:5 (KJV)
For there is one God, and one
mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
I.e., we Protestants see
Jesus as very CREATOR God (by, for example, John 1:1,3,14: "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God...3 All things were made by him [not
all others as Jehovah's Witnesses say]; and without him
was not any thing made that was made...14 And the Word was made
flesh [e.g., Jesus, a human], and dwelt among us,
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full
of grace and truth."
Thus, we see Jesus as the *only* way to God:
John 14:6 (KJV)
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the
life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me
A good argument, however, can
be made for the CATHOLIC VIEW of "praying" to the
saints:
1 Timothy 2:1 (KJV)
I exhort therefore, that, first of
all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for
all men; (Gordon: This includes women too, FYI.)
See also Hebrews 12:1-3
(KJV)
1 Wherefore
seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us
lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us
run with patience the race that is set before us,
2 Looking
unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set
before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right
hand of the throne of God.
3 For
consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye
be wearied and faint in your minds.
Here, the cloud of
witnesses could include the dead saints, who have gone on to Heaven, and this is
insinuated in Revelations 6:9-11
9 And
when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that
were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they
held:
10 And
they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou
not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the
earth?
11 And
white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that
they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and
their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be
fulfilled.
The dead saints actually
were NOT unconscious. (When they got to Heaven, who knows, maybe THEY were
praying or interceding for us.)
My view is this: While
it is OK for the dead to pray for us, I don't
feel it is OK for us to try to ask them -or contact
them: (This would be considered "witchcraft" and the like.)
Deuteronomy 18:10-12 (New
King James Version) (Please note that the NKJV uses more
plain language, as a necromancer is one who calls up the
dead.)
10 There
shall not be found among you anyone who makes his son or his daughter
pass through the fire, or one who practices witchcraft, or a
soothsayer, or one who interprets omens, or a sorcerer,
11 or
one who conjures spells, or a medium, or a spiritist, or one who calls up the dead.
12 For
all who do these things are an abomination to the LORD, and because of
these abominations the LORD your God drives them out from before
you.
Gordon
Gordon Wayne Watts
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BS, The Florida State University, Biological & Chemical
Sciences,
double major with honors
AS, United Electronics
Institute, Valedictorian
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"First, they [Nazis] came for the
Jews. I was silent. I was not a Jew. Then they came for the Communists. I was
silent. I was not a Communist. Then they came for the trade unionists. I was
silent. I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for me. There was no one left
to speak for me." (Martin Niemoller, given credit for a quotation in The
Harper Religious and Inspirational Quotation Companion, ed. Margaret Pepper
(New York: Harper &Row, 1989), 429 -as cited on page 44, note 17, of
Religious Cleansing in the American Republic, by Keith A. Fornier,
Copyright 1993, by Liberty, Life, and Family Publications.
(Actually, they may not have
come for the Jews first, as it's far more likely they came for the prisoners,
mentally handicapped, and other so-called "inferiors" first -as historians tell
us -so they could get "practiced up;" But, they did come
for them -due to the silence of their neighbors -and due, in part, to their own
silence. So the general idea is correct: "Speak up now, or forever hold
your peace." --Gordon)
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